Tech: Computers

**xGavin** · Subject: Tech: Computers Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:11 pm

Just looking for some knowledge on computers for those of you that understand what gigahertz and shit is.. I never really got it.

How much do you think it'd cost to run a decent computer?
Windows XP of course.

If you could choose a setup (not your dream one, I'm no millionaire) what would it be?

For instance, if I were to continue playing L2 and frapsing ingame, what would be a good/decent set up to play with so their would be minimum lag spikes and etc?

Anyone?

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NeCroStriKeR · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:27 am

so.
cpu: core 2 quad 2,5Ghz x4 200$
ram: 4GB dual channel (1066mhz each) 120$
HDD: whatever from 100 till 500GB 50$-100$
motherboard: asus P5kQ PRO 150$
cpu cooler: Scythe coolermaster sphere 30$
graphic card: Nvidia Geforce 9500+ or ATI HD 2800+ 150$-300$

im lazy to calculate so gl ;p

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KnightHawk · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:15 am

Here's a decent budget setup:

Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052
Western Digital 500GB $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073
Patriot Extreme Performance 4GB RAM $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220269
ASUS P5K Motherboard $85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131278
OCZ 600W Power Supply $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010
PNY Geforce 9600 GT $90 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133239
Computer Case $30+
DVD/CD Drive/Burner(if you don't already have one) $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151173

Total: ~$500 to $600

Do you want to build it yourself or order one from a company that will build it for you(kinda like dell)?

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**xGavin** · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:20 am

NeCroStriKeR wrote:

so.
cpu: core 2 quad 2,5Ghz x4 200$
ram: 4GB dual channel (1066mhz each) 120$
HDD: whatever from 100 till 500GB 50$-100$
motherboard: asus P5kQ PRO 150$
cpu cooler: Scythe coolermaster sphere 30$
graphic card: Nvidia Geforce 9500+ or ATI HD 2800+ 150$-300$

im lazy to calculate so gl ;p

Sweet!

KnightHawk wrote:

Here's a decent budget setup:

Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115052
Western Digital 500GB $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073
Patriot Extreme Performance 4GB RAM $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220269
ASUS P5K Motherboard $85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131278
OCZ 600W Power Supply $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341010
PNY Geforce 9600 GT $90 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133239
Computer Case $30+
DVD/CD Drive/Burner(if you don't already have one) $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151173

Total: ~$500 to $600

Do you want to build it yourself or order one from a company that will build it for you(kinda like dell)?

Most likely from a company so I wouldn't fuck nothin' up.
But if I read up enough, I'd probably feel confident enough to put it together myself lol.

Thanks a lot though, I'm definitely gonna look into this a lot more cause it's actually affordable haha.

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**Gibjab** · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:22 am

that build hawk just gave works out to around £275 which is like 2 months work which is soooo worth it

**xGavin** · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:13 pm

Gibjab wrote:

that build hawk just gave works out to around £275 which is like 2 months work which is soooo worth it

Well, i'll be able to afford within' this month if I buy it instead of a projector lol.

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**Draven** · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:47 pm

Knighthawk is my #1 computer consultant btw gavin, I'd go to him before ANYONE else I know =x

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NeCroStriKeR · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:07 am

i wouldnt go for a core2duo processor with 2,53Ghz only
and for 4gb 800mhz ram.. way too slow

ps: OCZ are one of the cheapest power suppliers and most unstable.
prefer Coolermaster which are OP

about ram: Mushkin and again Mushkin No1 awards for the fastest and cheapest ram!with life warranty

core2quad is 2 times faster and only 50$ more expensive
the core2duo that knighthawk mentioned is on full power without overclocking at: 5,12Ghz

the core2quad is at: 10Ghz without overclocking

the asus p5k... rofl at that.. have you ever tried to overlock it?
his bios Is on ati perf, that means it can only overclock ati supported gears like graphic card (and cant afford core2extreme technology)

geforce 9600 is ok but after 3years it will be low (microsoft is developing direct x 11) and even so the graphic card MUST have a hdmi slot or even HD Ready for high definition graphics) if you try to sli the 9600 on the asus p5k it'll fail cause the sync of the motherboard is on 100mhz 420MaH
it requires at least 560Mah

this is it.

if you want a cheap computer that will last for 2years this one is ok
but if you want a computer that rocks some games rly hard go for something more OP

ps: my pc is on core2quad 2,5Ghz 8GB ram and nvidia 9800GX (kubuntu operator the only one that provides 8GB ram linux)
and yea its fucking awesome i play like all the games with full graphics and shits i open like 16 L2 interlude clients in 5min. i just love it

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**Gibjab** · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Mon Nov 03, 2008 8:05 am

NeCroStriKeR wrote:

i wouldnt go for a core2duo processor with 2,53Ghz only
and for 4gb 800mhz ram.. way too slow

ps: OCZ are one of the cheapest power suppliers and most unstable.
prefer Coolermaster which are OP

about ram: Mushkin and again Mushkin No1 awards for the fastest and cheapest ram!with life warranty

core2quad is 2 times faster and only 50$ more expensive
the core2duo that knighthawk mentioned is on full power without overclocking at: 5,12Ghz

the core2quad is at: 10Ghz without overclocking

the asus p5k... rofl at that.. have you ever tried to overlock it?
his bios Is on ati perf, that means it can only overclock ati supported gears like graphic card (and cant afford core2extreme technology)

geforce 9600 is ok but after 3years it will be low (microsoft is developing direct x 11) and even so the graphic card MUST have a hdmi slot or even HD Ready for high definition graphics) if you try to sli the 9600 on the asus p5k it'll fail cause the sync of the motherboard is on 100mhz 420MaH
it requires at least 560Mah

this is it.

if you want a cheap computer that will last for 2years this one is ok
but if you want a computer that rocks some games rly hard go for something more OP

ps: my pc is on core2quad 2,5Ghz 8GB ram and nvidia 9800GX (kubuntu operator the only one that provides 8GB ram linux)
and yea its fucking awesome i play like all the games with full graphics and shits i open like 16 L2 interlude clients in 5min. i just love it

didnt understand all that computer shizzle but how much was your comp and how long ago?

**xGavin** · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:25 am

NeCroStriKeR wrote:

i wouldnt go for a core2duo processor with 2,53Ghz only
and for 4gb 800mhz ram.. way too slow

ps: OCZ are one of the cheapest power suppliers and most unstable.
prefer Coolermaster which are OP

about ram: Mushkin and again Mushkin No1 awards for the fastest and cheapest ram!with life warranty

core2quad is 2 times faster and only 50$ more expensive
the core2duo that knighthawk mentioned is on full power without overclocking at: 5,12Ghz

the core2quad is at: 10Ghz without overclocking

the asus p5k... rofl at that.. have you ever tried to overlock it?
his bios Is on ati perf, that means it can only overclock ati supported gears like graphic card (and cant afford core2extreme technology)

geforce 9600 is ok but after 3years it will be low (microsoft is developing direct x 11) and even so the graphic card MUST have a hdmi slot or even HD Ready for high definition graphics) if you try to sli the 9600 on the asus p5k it'll fail cause the sync of the motherboard is on 100mhz 420MaH
it requires at least 560Mah

this is it.

if you want a cheap computer that will last for 2years this one is ok
but if you want a computer that rocks some games rly hard go for something more OP

ps: my pc is on core2quad 2,5Ghz 8GB ram and nvidia 9800GX (kubuntu operator the only one that provides 8GB ram linux)
and yea its fucking awesome i play like all the games with full graphics and shits i open like 16 L2 interlude clients in 5min. i just love it

yeah, how much did yours cost?
but I mean, don't be raggin' on hawk about what he told me, I was lookin' for something cheap.

Of course I'd love a build like yours, and feel more motivated to save some cash and get it instead but if you guys can set me up with something universal to where as I can get a cheap set up, and then slowly upgrade it as technology and my wallet grows, that'd be gnar as well.

I just want something to where I'll be able to run games like L2, and be able to multi-task with minimum lag. Divine (bot prog.) takes up a lot of my resources for L2, and aside that I try to fraps encounters.

I have a gig of ram but I heard that ain't shit, especially since my CPU ain't great either. (from what I'm told.. I mean, I have no clue what components boost the other and etc. Will totally listen though if anyone is ever bored enough to explain).

Since I did that DxDiag thing for DarkFall beta, this might help enlighten my situation.

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System Information
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Time of this report: 11/1/2008, 18:10:22
Machine name: NA-E6D627352FED
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation
System Model: Latitude D600
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A16
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400MHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 745MB used, 1716MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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Card name: MOBILITY RADEON 9000
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI MOBILITY/RADEON 9000 AGP (0x4C66)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4C66&SUBSYS_011D1028&REV_02
Display Memory: 32.0 MB
Current Mode: 1400 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Default Monitor
Monitor Max Res:
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6587 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 11/10/2005 22:49:44, 252416 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 11/10/2005 22:49:24, 1406464 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0F26-11CF-236A-1721A3C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4C66
SubSys ID: 0x011D1028
Revision ID: 0x0002
Revision ID: 0x0002
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
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Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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I looked into upgrading my video card and shit for my laptop (current computer and same one for the past.. 4 or 5 years) a while back but from what I read, I can't do anything because of my motherboard. Everything conflicts with each other and would be utterly useless.

Hence why I'm looking for a new build layout, which I can upgrade when cash flows into my pocket. Granted I work a shitty part time job.

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**Gibjab** · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:30 am

almost as bad as my computer lol

NeCroStriKeR · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:22 pm

lol hawk sent a good and cheap computer
i didnt say anything! he's friend and he knows about computers
i just said if you need a cheap one go for hawk's if not go for something more uber

ps: we all love each other here in BI community bounce

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**xGavin** · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:02 pm

NeCroStriKeR wrote:

lol hawk sent a good and cheap computer
i didnt say anything! he's friend and he knows about computers
i just said if you need a cheap one go for hawk's if not go for something more uber

ps: we all love each other here in BI community bounce

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALP

How much was yours?

elephant

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**Gibjab** · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:19 pm

dodging bullets much?

**xGavin** · Subject: Re: Tech: Computers Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:28 am

I'd rather just be able to spend 5/600 on a decent setup, but a setup that could be turned OP with another 5/600. I wouldn't wanna spend 5/600, then a grand on a whole new one.

ya diiggg?

oh and..

WHAT THE BEANS

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